Posts by Zagor Almanah

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Who is the Real faithful and discreet slave?

by mtwtf in

who is the real faithful and discreet slave?

he ceases to exist once the meeting is over;.

Zagor Almanah

It is very simple, Judge Rutherford was the GB.

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Who is the Real faithful and discreet slave?

by mtwtf in

who is the real faithful and discreet slave?

he ceases to exist once the meeting is over;.

Zagor Almanah

"Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. 45 Who then is a faithful and wise [NWT = discreet] servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing," ( Matt. 24:42-46 ).

The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, commonly known as the Jehovah's Witnesses, claims to be the faithful and discreet slave spoken of in Matt. 24:42-46 ,

"Jesus foretold that among his people there would be a "faithful and discreet slave" class who would be providing the spiritual food to God's family of devoted servants on earth, acting as his channel of communication and overseeing the carrying out of the Kingdom interests world-wide ( Matt. 24:45-47 ). These anointed overseers serve as though being guided in their activities by the right hand of Christ," (Watchtower, Jan. 15, 1969, p. 51).
All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the "greatly diversified wisdom of God" can become known only through Jehovah's channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave," (Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1994, p. 8).
"We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the 'faithful and discreet slave' organization," (Watchtower. Feb 15, 1981, p. 19

As "The faithful and discreet slave" it claims that only its organization is capable of rightly understanding God's word: "Only this organization functions for Jehovah's purpose and to his praise. To it alone God's Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book (Watchtower, July 1, 1973, p. 402).

The Jehovah's Witnesses are certainly zealous for their beliefs, but they are misguided in those beliefs. The Watchtower Organization, including all the Jehovah's Witnesses, is not the faithful and discreet slave spoken of by Jesus in Matt. 24:42-46 . The faithful and discreet slave is simply all who are true Christians.

A faithful slave of God does not make false prophecies

Dismantling the Watchtower claim that it is the faithful and discreet slave is easy. All we need to do is look at the track record of the Watchtower as an organization and see if it has been faithful. Consider the following false prophecies made by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society over the years:

1899 "...the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' ( Revelation 16:14 ), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101).
1918 "Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89.)
1922 "The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914," (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262.)
1923 "Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1923, p. 106).
1931 "There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah's faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1917, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time...and they also learned to quit fixing dates," (Vindication, p. 338).
1941 "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon," (Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p. 288).
1968 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end to the world,' even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing?...Missing from such people were God's truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them," (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).

I agree with the final quote in the Awake magazine. The previous false prophecies of the Watchtower organization demonstrate that it is lacking God's truths. If it is, then it is not the faithful and discreet slave.

Charles Taze Russell was called the Faithful and Discreet Slave

Apparently, Charles Taze Russell, the founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses, was called the "faithful and discreet slave."

Thousands of readers of Pastor Russell's writings believe that he filled the office of 'that faithful and wise servant,' and that his great work was giving to the household of faith meat in due season. His modesty and humility precluded him from openly claiming this title, but he admitted as much in private conversation, (Watchtower Dec.1, 1916 p. 357).

Which is it? Is the Watchtower right or wrong about Russell? Given that it has made many errors in the past in its prophecies which proves it does not speak for God, it seems clear that the Watchtower Organization is clearly not the "faithful and discreet slave" mentioned by Jesus. A slave of God would not go around changing its doctrines, making false prophecies, or attempt to control the thinking of its people . The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is not the faithful and discreet slave.

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Is the Jehovah's Witness religion Christian?

by Zagor Almanah in

is the jehovah's witness religion christian?the answer to the question is, "no.

it is not christian.

" like all non-christian cults, the jehovah's witness organization distorts the essential doctrines of christianity.

Zagor Almanah

Is the Jehovah's Witness religion Christian?

The answer to the question is, "No. It is not Christian." Like all non-Christian cults, the Jehovah's Witness organization distorts the essential doctrines of Christianity. It denies the deity of Christ, His physical resurrection, and salvation by grace. This alone makes it non-Christian. To support its erring doctrines, the Watchtower organization (which is the author and teacher of all official Jehovah's Witness theology), has even altered the Bible to make it agree with its changing and non-Christian teachings.

Typical with cults that use the Bible to support its position is a host of interpretive errors:

Taking verses out of their immediate context.
Refusing to read verses in the entire biblical context.
Inserting their theological presuppositions into the text.
Altering the Biblical text to suit their needs.
Latching onto one verse to interpret a host of others.
Changing the meanings of words.
Proclaiming some passages to be figurative when they contradict their doctrines.
Adding to the Word of God.

Additionally, the Jehovah's Witness organization requires of its members regular weekly attendance at their "Bible Study" meetings where they are repeatedly indoctrinated with anti-Christian teachings. This is done by reading the Watchtower magazine, following along with what it says, reading the questions it asks, and reciting the answers it gives. In other words, the Watchtower Organization carefully trains its members to let the Organization do their thinking for them. For confirmation of this, please read Does the Watchtower organization control the JW's thinking?

The Witnesses are told they will be persecuted when they go door to door teaching their doctrines. They are further told that this is simply the enemy fighting against God's organization because they are in "the truth." So, when someone disagrees with them, they are conditioned to reflect on what the Watchtower has told them. They then feel confirmed in being in God's true organization on earth (like all cults claim). They are strongly encouraged to have friends and acquaintances that are only JW's, thereby keeping outside examination to a minimum. They are told to shun those who leave their group, for in this way there is no way to see why someone has left and no way to find out that they are in error from those who have found the truth in Christ. They are conditioned to shy away from any real biblically knowledgeable person. An example of this is frequently found on the Internet. I was once banned from a Jehovah's Witness chat room after I not only answered their objections to the Trinity and deity of Christ, but challenged them in return. Subsequently, my name was passed around to all other Jehovah's Witness rooms where I was banned from them as well. This is a frequent occurrence on the Internet where the Jehovah's Witnesses are alive and well. It is obvious that critical examination of their doctrines is not encouraged by the Watchtower Organization.

The Jehovah's Witnesses consider themselves to be Christians because they believe they are serving the true and living God. Like many cults, they think they are the only true church on earth. Yet, they deny the Trinity, the deity of Christ, the personhood of the Holy Spirit, Jesus' physical resurrection, and salvation by grace through faith.

The Jehovah's Witnesses are discouraged from looking into Jehovah's Witness history or old Watchtower literature which is replete with contradictions, altered doctrines, and false prophecies. Instead, they are indoctrinated repeatedly against basic Christian doctrines (Trinity, deity of Christ, etc.) and into the notion that they alone are the true servants of God and that all others are either in "Christendom" or simply unbelievers.

Primarily, the Jehovah's Witness organization is a mind-control organization that uses its people to pass out literature and send in "donations" to the headquarters in Brooklyn, New York.

"Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible."1

The Watchtower organization of the Jehovah's Witnesses is a non-Christian organization that uses its people to promulgate false doctrines, and collects "contributions" for distribution of a multitudinous amount of literature, and expand its grip into the lives of its members and their families.

It is a non-Christian cult.

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Does the Watchtower still make a big thing about the cry of "Peace & Security"?

by cantleave in

it was a big thing in 70's and 80's, but seemed to have died down during the 90's up until the time i left.

i was wondering with the arab spring and increased unrest in the middle east, whether the brothers are speculating about this again?.

Zagor Almanah

The question is whom will sudden destruction be upon ? Maybe Jehovah's Witnesses themselves perhaps ? Since they are the only one looking for that to happen. God will blind their eyes so they should believe a lie. Perhaps a false return of Jesus Christ, a 1914 lie, the Watchtower society put in their minds. It also says that those that perish know God, but don't glorify him the way he deserves...

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Analysis of anti-607 BCE Rebuttals

by Ethos in

i agreed yesterday to engage in the '607' topic.

i've read numerous threads and am well aware that this topic has been addressed and dissected quite thoroughly.

therefore, if you are uninterested in participating, that's fine.

Zagor Almanah

Can you please delete my double post. I tried to insert a diagram, that would explain it more correctly, but it doesn't seem to work...

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Analysis of anti-607 BCE Rebuttals

by Ethos in

i agreed yesterday to engage in the '607' topic.

i've read numerous threads and am well aware that this topic has been addressed and dissected quite thoroughly.

therefore, if you are uninterested in participating, that's fine.

Zagor Almanah

PROPHECIES OF the REIGN OF GENTILE KINGDOMS
Daniel 2
The IMAGE
The EVENTS
Fulfilled
in?HISTORY
The CHALDEAN EMPIRE
(Babylon)
625-539 B.C.
Daniel 7
The?FOUR BEASTS
(State) (Church)
meaning
of
Symbols
1st HEAD
of prophetic
BABYLON
2nd HEAD
of prophetic
BABYLON
7th HEAD
of prophetic
BABYLON,
with
10 HORNS
3rd, 4th, 5th,
6th HEADS of
prophetic
BABYLON
Daniel 8
The RAM
and GOAT
Revelation 17
BABYLON
and BEAST
Revelation 13
The BEAST and IMAGE
(State) (Church)
3rd BEAST
(LEOPARD)
4 heads
verse 6
4th BEAST
strong like
IRON with
10 HORNS
verses 7, 23, 24
Head of GOLD
verses 32, 38
RAM with
2 horns
vv. 3, 4, 20
HE GOAT with
great horn and
4 notable ones
vv. 5-8, 21, 22
2nd HORN
rooted up
2nd BEAST
(BEAR)
verse 5
Legs as
IRON
verses 33,
40-43
1st HORN
plucked by roots
3rd HORN
rooted up
The OSTROGOTHS
A.D. 493-554
The HERULI,
Odoacer’s government,
A.D. 476-493
The VANDALS
A.D. 429-533
Fall of the ROMAN EMPIRE
A.D. 476
The ROMAN EMPIRE
in two divisions,
West and East
31 B.C.-A.D. 476
GREECE, under
Alexander the Great,
and four divisions,
began 333 B.C.
The PERSIAN EMPIRE
(Medo-Persia)
558-330 B.C.
1st BEAST
like LION
verse 4
Breast & arms
of SILVER
verses 32, 39
Belly &
thighs of
BRASS
verses 32, 39
The BEAST
with 7 HEADS
and 10 HORNS
verses 1, 2
The DEADLY
WOUND verse 3
1st HORN
2nd HORN
3rd HORN
These three
horns,
destroyed at
behest of pope,
fill the
“Transition
Age” (Myers)
Ruled the beast,
so-called
BABYLON the
GREAT
Since the
“great whore”
never rode any
of the
7 heads
of the 1st
4 beasts, but
did mount
and ride the
last 7 horns
of Daniel’s 4th
beast it follows
that the last 7
horns of
Dan. 7 and Rev.
13 are the 7
HEADS of Rev.
17 (5 fallen at
collapse of
Napoleon).
LITTLE
HORN
among 10
verses 8,
20-22, 24-27
6th
HORN
5th
HORN
7th
HORN
8th
HORN
In 1814, 1,260 years after its “deadly wound” was healed, the “HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE” was dissolved.
“So closed a government that dated from Augustus Caesar” (West, p. 377).
The Ten
TOES
9th
HORN
10th
HORN
ITALY, under Garibaldi,
1870, to the fascist
REGIMES, 1945
Revived ROMAN EMPIRE,
10 rulers under one leader.
NAPOLEON’S KINGDOM
(French head), crowned
1805
HAPSBURG dynasty
(Austrian head),
Charles V crowned 1520
HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE
(German head), Otto the
Great crowned 962
FRANKISH KINGDOM
Began A.D. 774.
Charlemagne crowned
A.D. 800
FALSE CHRISTIANITY
and church government,
or “image” of Roman
Empire government
“IMPERIAL
RESTORATION” of empire
by Justinian, A.D. 554.
He recognized supremacy of
this world’s Christianity.
Beast ascends
out of pit
4th
HORN
(One yet to
come)
(One IS)
Rev. 17:10
1st HEAD
of BEAST
(healed)
ridden by
scarlet-clothed
woman
SCARLET
WOMAN who
rode the
BEAST vv. 1, 2
5th HEAD
ridden by
woman
6th head
ridden by
woman
7th head and
10 HORNS
4th HEAD
ridden by
woman
3rd HEAD
ridden by
woman
2nd HEAD
ridden by
woman
2-horned
“LAMB
DRAGON” and
“IMAGE”
verses 11-18
1st of remaining
7 horns—
DEADLY
WOUND
HEALED (to
continue 1,260
years) verse 5
2nd of
remaining
7 HORNS
3rd of
remaining
7 HORNS
4th of
remaining
7 HORNS
5th of
remaining
7 HORNS
6th of
remaining

7 HORNS

7th and lastHORN

554-1814=1,260 years beast continued for a short time. A short time of 1260 days is 3 and a half years. The period of great tribulation.

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WHAT REASON DOES THE GOVERNING BODY HAVE TO DENY JESUS MEDIATOR-SHIP FOR EVERYONE?

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

aguest, jehovah-jirah, lars58, rick fearon, finkle, or another scholars on jwn.

what reason does the governing body have for telling.

seven million jehovah's witnesses, "jesus is not your man dude!

Zagor Almanah

Synagogue of Satan, that is what it is mentioned in a book of Revelation Chp 3 vers 9. They say they are Jews and are not but do lie.

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I kicked the Borg out!

by target in

sometimes our recovery depends a lot on how we percieve the events that took place.

over the years i felt like the victim so many times and until i couldn't take it anymore and i "left".

i suddenly realized that i didn't go anywhere.

Zagor Almanah

Here is one example how they twist God's Word and replace it with their own

2 Thousands of years ago, God’s people also held holy conventions. We will review some Scriptural precedents for modern-day conventions, note similarities between ancient and modern features of such gatherings,

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20120915/gatherings-of-gods-people/

With other words they openly admit that they are replacing God's holy conventions with their own, called '' modern day one'' This organization is EVIL to its very core. They do everything opposite, than what it says in the Bible.

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when the TRUTH became lies

by hedonistixstar in

my family started to study when i was six years old.

a lady would come to our house and read us a book that had stories about the bible.

as i grew older i grew to like it and then is when i become very advocated to it.

Zagor Almanah

Hi Guys

What make me wake up is after I have read their organization book, and how the GB claim divine worship from the people through the '' organization''. The Borg first, than Jehova and Jesus after. It is the only way God can communicate, through the GB. If he does it outside, he can't talk and hear

Luckily it happened before I baptized. It scared the hell out of me.

Here is a very good website from the former elder. I don't know if you have heared of it. He comes up with questions every JW should ask themselves regarding Biblical issues.

http://www.towerwatch.com/

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Do we have the right to criticize Jehovah's anointed ones?

by Christ Alone in

jehovah's witness.

no one must ever compromise any of the essential, life-saving truths from god, but to truly be part of the "one body" required of christians, everyone must compromise some personal beliefs, preferences, interpretations, etc.. the jewish christians in rome were commanded to give up the mosaic law.

this was a task that was most difficult for them.

Zagor Almanah

Jehovas annointed should get a swift boot in the ass.